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Today's guest is such an inspirational young woman and is a kindred spirit, an absolute lover of life. I met Ro Cortes through a corporate coaching programme. And it's been such an absolute pleasure to get to know Ro and to help her gain clarity about where she's at in life and where she's heading. The coaching was just amazing, like just wonderful conversations, and I invited row today so we could continue some of those conversations just about what inspires her and her passions and what drives her to kind of share those passions with others as well. So I'm not going to go much into much more detail, because that will unfold through the chat row. Welcome, welcome.

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Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure, I had so much fun working with you. And you really did help me so much in my career, and what I wanted to look for in my career. So I really, really appreciate that. And I'm really happy to be here.

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Oh, me too. And really, we might dive into that a little bit about some of the things we did cover in the coaching. But it was a real pleasure. And all the coaching I do is a real pleasure that we were able to sort of navigate some places that really opened up a lot of possibilities, didn't they? It was very free flowing. Before we dive into that, tell me a little bit about, you know what stage of life, you're at just where you're at in life right now. Yeah, perfect. So,

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after our coaching, I've decided obviously, that I wanted to move on into a different job role within the government, which I'm really excited about. So where I am at personally as well is I've kind of got my own YouTube channels, and I have my own Tik Tok that I created to work on giving advice to people through about life, and about fitness and health. So that's where I'm at at the moment. I've also finished my studies on nutrition, and I'm studying fitness. So that will be opening up more doors for me to give advice on those topics as well. So I'm really just kind of enjoying life at the moment and seeing where it takes me really,

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yeah, I love that. I love that. And just a little bit of background. So I met row through corporate so so row works in a corporate role that is very much passionate about like living your best life, but studying health and nutrition and you've set up your YouTube channel about sharing information that's important to you, and also that inspirational messages for your followers. We're going to dive into that soon. I don't want to go straight into that. Tell me a little bit about your family, because through our coaching family seemed to be very important to you and have a very key really shaped you for who you are. Tell me a little bit about what growing up was like for you?

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Yeah, so I have grown up in a Christian family. So my dad's dad was a pastor. And so he came from a very, very religious, I'd say family, and then we moved to Australia, I was about four years old, and just had very strong foundations there with my morals and respect and caring for people and sharing things with people. So that's how I where I got that kind of passion from as well. My parents are still together. They were have been together for 36 years now. And I've got a brother, and he is younger than me, but he seems older. He's very wise. And he gives me so much inspiration because he's just always giving me information as well. He's very, he loves to read but lots of nonfiction so he's more the opposite of me where I like to read the fiction stuff. He is just super inspiring. I think he's probably the the person that kind of pushed me to create my YouTube channel. He's the one that kind of supports me in that a lot. And my mom as well, she she watches all my videos. Um, but yeah, growing up in this family, I've never felt like I wasn't supported. I've always felt supported. I've always felt loved and something that I kind of want to give back to others.

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Yeah. You know, that's, I really picked that up through our coaching the sort of foundations and the values in life. Where did you move from what country? Were you born in? Chile? In Chile? Yeah, yeah. So you were four when you move to Australia. So have you been back to Chile? To visit? Yeah,

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I've been a couple of times. I think I went back when I was eight. And then when I was 18. And then when I was 22. So I've been back three times, but it's been a while. My family's been back more than me. But I would like to go back. I think it's been like 10 years now. So I think it's time to go back. So

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do you still have families, they're still family. They're

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all my families. And so I only have cousins that live in Sydney. They used to live in Canberra, but they moved to Sydney. That's it just like move One cousin with her two daughters who are my age. So my cousins are older. And yeah, everybody else is in Chile.

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So why did your family move to Australia? For more opportunities, more opportunities? Yeah, that's a big risk, isn't it? That's a big step for a family to move away from their base as well. So there must have been that strong faith and looking for those opportunities as well.

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Definitely. Yeah, definitely. The good thing is in Chile, they do teach you English as like one of the basics in school. So my dad, you know, he's the one that knew more English than my mom, it took her a while to actually learn. I mean, I couldn't even imagine moving to a country where I just didn't know the language and

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that friend, a lot of yeah, a lot of people do that. It's huge. Yeah, really big. We take a lot for granted, I think, yeah, the people that haven't needed to do that, and also the reasons sort of looking for those opportunities. And you mentioned about your dad, he's, he's not a pastor is he your granddad? Was but as your pastor, your dad's involved with the church, because I remember you talking about him being very inspirational

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as well. Yeah, so he is, he sometimes does do some preaching at the church. So when the pastor is away, he kind of takes over a little bit to help out. So our church is really very flexible. They're very, it's not structured, in a certain way, which I really like, it's very chill. And so I think that my dad, because English is the second language, he does such a good job. And he's so inspirational to me, because what he says he does, like he is who he says he is, which I you know, I think that that's where I kind of got that from where I don't feel the need to kind of hide myself. I am who I am.

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I do not I love that too. And I think that is a really beautiful message for a lot of our listeners, because there's that's very much about what I'm about is helping people to have the confidence and to be comfortable to show up. You know who they are. A lot of women don't a lot of, you know, through conditioning through life circumstances through a whole range of things. A lot of women don't feel comfortable. And a lot of men too, don't feel don't have that confidence. So where do you think yours as yours just come from? Just how you're wired? Or is it your family support the environment you grew up in?

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Yeah, I think it's a mix. I think that it's definitely from family roots, because I do think that they are very, like I said, very, very supportive. So having that is super important from the beginning. But also like, I've been lucky enough to have really good friends around me, I've never really got myself into trouble. Never really wanted to get myself into trouble. I think I always knew, I've always knew right and wrong. I think it's because obviously my Christian upbringing, I knew what we couldn't and should do. But it was never a restrictive thing. It was never like, like, you have to be doing this. And they wouldn't let me watch this or do that. It was very, like, they told us but they respected and knew that we would kind of understand it on our own, which was really nice. It was never really restrictive, which is what you hear a lot of the time with with these religious families and upbringings Is that is that don't let you do a lot of stuff. But it was more informative. Like they tell us things. They say this is why, but you know, you're going out into the world. And you just have to make those decisions along the way, which is kind of nice. It was they didn't handhold Yeah, they kind of

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it to me, it sounds like it's a balance of not hand holding, but providing some really solid foundations about, you know, the just about how to live and the support, like what you said they're about, they're a very supportive family, and also your brother is very inspiring as well. So even the way that you speak about them is very inspiring, because that's often you know, for some families that they don't have that they don't have that mutual respect, or the you know, somebody might not agree with something and then it's all things get thrown out of proportion, but it sounds like it's a very solid foundation to who you are.

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Yeah, definitely. And when we do disagree with things is doesn't become an argument, it becomes a conversation which I have learnt that, taking that into other areas of my life when I have if I have to have confrontations with people, it's, you know, not to yell at them. It's to sit down and actually have that conversation as an adult to try and fix it. Instead of because, you know, I, I always knew that. If you argue with someone by yelling, all that stuff, it's not going to do anything. That person is not going to listen, they're going to put up a wall. So I always learned I've learned that in order to make something work or Fix a situation it's to speak about communication has always been a huge, huge thing in our family.

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Yeah. And I think also, when we talk in the workplace as well, I see a lot of conflicts happening in the workplace because people are not communicating. And they come in with a conflict being, I have to win. You know, I have to you have to say it my way, I have to win. And I really love what you were saying is that conflict is it's difference of opinions. And it's about having a conversation around that and trying to understand things from the other point person's point of view, but you might still agree to disagree, and exactly okay to without harbouring that, you know that resentment and anger. And I think that's where people can get a little bit stuck is they need to win.

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Exactly. And I mean, that that all goes back to what actual tolerance is, you know, these days, you hear people talking about total tolerance. And it's really like, I want you to believe what I believe. And that's not tolerance. So, yeah, I heard a quote, ages ago, the pastor said it, but I know it's a quote that's famous. And it's sometimes it's best to be kinder than to be right. Yes. And I really liked that. I thought that was really that's just stayed with me this whole time. So I always constantly have that in the back of my mind when I'm dealing with anything, because I'm like, You know what, even if I am right, sometimes, it can come off me. So I'm like, I'll just leave it, you know, because it sometimes it's just better to be a nice person.

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Yeah. And what I'm hearing there to roll is that it's a conscious thinking about it. It's not about giving away your power and suppressing who you are. But what I'm hearing is that you're kind of weighing up, isn't what you know, what battles do you fight? What ones are worth fighting? You know, there might be that, yeah, let's just agree to disagree on this one. Because if I keep going on about what I think, and you're going on about what you think, and we're just clashing heads, then that's not going to be your first thoughts kind of weighing up. You know, how much energy do you give in? Yeah, exactly. And not giving away your power? Yeah. It's, well, compromise. Yeah,

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I think it's, it's also because most people already have formed their opinions have already have a foundation of their beliefs. So there's no point in that you can say what you believe. But you without having to be pushy about it, you can be like, This is how I was brought up, this is what I think. But I respect how you feel and how you think. And I think that that's very rare now, which is really sad. But it's something that I like, when I talk about things on my YouTube channel, I like to talk about that. Like, I like to make sure that even though I'm telling them, these are my advices and issues and things that you can resolve, with what I'm, you know, saying I want them to take it away, but also put their own spin on things or not necessarily take all the advice that I give them, because it's not, my advice is not the best advice. And it's not the only advice. So

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I would say I'm exactly the same when I'm coaching is, you know, here is some consideration considerations. And I never tell people what to do. And hopefully you experienced that that it's about. Here's some considerations. Here are some things, you know how I might view the world, but it's about each person needing to come up with what's right for them. Because what I do is, yep, you're still Yeah, what I do is not might not be the right thing for somebody else, it might not fit with where they're at. And I get I kind of get that little creep up my back when I'm in conversation with people and they say, oh, yeah, you should do blah, blah, blah. It's like, Well, number one, don't tell me what to do. Number two, you don't really know the whole story that's going on. So it's about sharing information. And then people being able to adapt that to what's going on for them in their lives. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. So tell me tell me, we're sort of starting to dip into some of that as well. But your life? Do you have an overarching sort of life philosophy, or outlook on life? And I know, that's a very big question.

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Not really, like, I think that it basically is about just being kind to people and understanding. having empathy is super important to me, understanding that you don't know what's going on in someone else's life. So you should treat people in a better way. You know, I used to have, I used to have really bad road rage, and I sometimes still catch myself but the good thing is that now I realise when I'm doing it, I'm very aware of when I do think negative, which is good, because I feel like if I'm putting all this negative energy in, and I notice, it means that there's this is a shift in my attitude towards things. And so for me, it's like, oh, you know, this person's going so slow, but then I start to think but what if they've got a cake in the car and they can't move too quickly, it's gonna go flying, or, you know, they've got a child, you know, things like that. So you start to understand people a little bit better, because you start to realise it's not about it's not just about you. And I think that that's what my life. Yeah, view is, it's not just about you. And I think we're just, you know, we live in such a, like, a, well, that's all about me, me, me. And I think that that's why you kind of get sucked into that. And you kind of help it, everyone seems to be in that kind of space of like, me this, and this is what I want. And this is how I feel. And so it's, it's having to like, remind yourself that other people are just as important that you're your life, you're not the star of the movie. You're all, you know, just cast members in the movie. And, yes, you have to respect people. And

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I love that row. And it's, for me, there is a balance, I think, too, because we part of my message is around, you know, people being confident to show up as their authentic selves. And when you show up as your authentic self, some people think, well, that gives me the right to do things exactly how I want to do them and not give a shit about others. And for me, that's not what it's like, it's about yep, I will show up how I want to show up. But it's also being conscious of the impact of what I'm doing on other people. So being completely myself, that might not be the best thing. You know, instead in great relationships, because you know, being honest and speaking your truth. Yes, we can do that. But it's doing it in a way that is considered of others as well. That's my take on it. I'm hearing that from you, and you are much better with road rage. I am, you know, that awareness stuff. I if you ask my kids, they're still things that they go on about me at the school car park that used to stress me out like you would not believe. So they still steer me about that. And I'm aware of when I get agitated. But then I just still get agitated. I'm quiet at that point in the car to just shut it up. So you're much more involved in the road rage?

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Oh, no, no, sometimes I'm not there. Sometimes it takes me like, until I like get to the place where I'm going, I think sit there and I probably should have been a bit nicer. Or like, I probably should have done this. I don't think I've ever like, I don't think I've ever yelled at cars. You know, you've given the finger maybe maybe. But um, yeah, even when people cut you off sometimes or they go in, they're not supposed to. And you're just like, like, what are you doing? But then sometimes you think like, you probably got it before as well. And sometimes it's not. And when you realise the person's reaction, they're like, like, you know that they didn't do it on purpose. It's, they act, they didn't do it. They just didn't think about it. They just did it. And then they realise, Oh, whoops, and you can't do anything about it. After that.

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I I think that's a great view is kind of responding versus reacting. Yeah, that that's what I get, you know, the responses. Don't just automatically give them the finger or don't just automatically yell at them kind of you can be that instantly enraged. But yeah, why? Why is that going on? And that's not just road rage, either. That's kind of life. Yes. You know, people we don't know. We don't know what's, you know, under the surface for other people there.

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Exactly. And I think that the there's actually a book that, that got me thinking that way. And it's this Steven Covey's The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. And I don't think I ever finished it. I've got it on my shelf. And I've read it when I was in London in I think it was 2014. So it was a long time ago. But it's still still sticks with me that one section where he talks about like, action and reaction. And exactly what you're saying. It's it's the way that you react to something that's in your control, you can't control the situation, but you can control how you react to the situation. And I always thought that was so interesting. And that's why I think that I'm so aware of it because it's just kind of an information that's just stayed with me this whole time.

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Yeah, I refer to Stephen Covey a lot and that sphere of influence, you know, what things can you control? What things are in your control? What things can you influence and what do you have absolutely no control over. And you know, not putting energy into the things that you have no control over. And when I'm working with people, often they're putting a lot of energy into stuff that they just can't do anything about. But you can control your reactions. You can control how you respond to others. You can control how what you say what you think, and because a lot of people think that they don't have control over a lot of things, but they do. They have control over ourselves and the choices that they make. There's a lot of people that say to me, ah, you know, I can't do anything I have to do it. And it's like, well, really? Really? Is that Yeah, really true.

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Yeah, exactly. You're absolutely right. Yeah, absolutely. Right. I think that, um, and once you kind of realise that, it's kind of powerful, because it's, you realise that you actually have a lot of power in situations that you probably didn't think that you would have, if you realise that it's the way that you you do things, you react, you talk you, you know, the way that you actually people, all of that is under your control. So there's no excuse, you know, I always hear you know, or see these things on on the internet, where people are like, well, I got treated this way by an ex boyfriend. So from now on, I'm just this way like I am, you know, bi Tch, because of what happened to me. And it's, I know that that shouldn't change who you are, you should actually continue to be a kind person, that person, you don't want to go to their level, you don't want to Why would you do that to other people, you know, so? Yeah, it isn't in the people's control. So

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yeah, and I think for me, too, and it's, it's not about saying that I always respond positively to stuff because I don't I have, there'll be things that happen, that I kind of go for that's brought up a whole lot of emotion and reaction in me. And what I and I don't always do this exact thing, but what I try and do is just to go, Oh, that's interesting. Why am I feeling or reacting that way? What is that bringing up in me? And why am I feeling that way? Is it something about me and my values? Is that something that, you know, somebody had said something that I feel has hurt me? Why is that hurting me? So I just sit and think well, why is that actually happening? Sometimes I get insight from that from that little, just why is that happening? And this isn't just an instant thing. Sometimes this is days and kind of weeks sort of going what? Why is that person? Why am I reacting a certain way to that person when I'm not to other people? What is that about? The interaction maybe with that person? Or what's going on? And then if I need to, I'll go that next step to say, Well, what do I want to be doing instead? How do I want to be feeling about that? And what do I need to do, because I can't, that I can't control that other person to do things, but I can control how I respond to it. So I kind of do this reflective practice. And then I take some action, and I make a decision as to either let it go, or to do something about changing my behaviours or things. So it's a process for me, but I quite often get have adverse reactions to people and things and situations. But I've got some tools and strategies where I'm not letting that weigh me down for today.

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I mean, that's amazing. And I think that that's the way that we should do things. Because we're human beings, we're going to, we're not always going to be happy, we're not always going to be in a good mood. And I think that it's so important. That's why I like journaling. I think journaling is really, really important because you're getting everything down. And then you can always go, Well, why did I feel that way? And like you said, you started to delve into that feeling of resentment towards a certain person or a situation and you just isn't it same with anxiety? And I think that's what it is. It's when you're dealing with anxiety, I have to deal with that. So I have to sometimes sit back and go, but why do I feel so anxious today? Like, what triggered it? And obviously, sometimes, if nothing does, and sometimes it just lets little things build up and then get to you. I also think that that's not a bad thing, because it does spark up this conversation. And I think I spoke about this to you the other day, and I think I said, anxiety has this, you know, conversation around it, how it's really horrible. And, of course, you know, you can feel that way. But I also think that you need a little bit of anxiety to tell you what's right and wrong. Yeah, if something's off, yeah, your anxiety tells you something's off. And I think that's super important is when people say the thing with stress, and people say I'm so stressed, sometimes that's a good thing.

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Yes. Yeah. Because what it is for me it's almost like your intuition or your gut feeling there's something in yourself that saying, This doesn't feel quite right. And then if you kind of tap in what is it that doesn't feel right, or isn't right about this situation? Anxiety is worrying about the future depression is focusing on the past. And so the the anxiety that anxious feeling about or something could go wrong, is good, but we don't want to get stuck in that are habit ruling us and you know, some people have very, very severe anxiety and, you know, they need professional help and around that and strategies, but I think there are some things that maybe we can do on a daily, you know, day to day basis that might help us to get some insight. And for me a lot of it's just that self awareness. I know, I know, my kind of bench mark. And I know when I'm kind of creeping out of that benchmark, and it's just like, our this is not my usual. So what do I need to do?

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Yeah, it's good. I feel like we mean, you are very similar. And yet we're very, we're very self aware, which I think is actually not that common. Actually, I did the what's the miles miles miles? Brian test? Myers Briggs. Yeah. Myers Briggs. Yeah. And I came out with the low IQ know, what isn't the least popular personality? I think it was in 5% of the world or something? Like how? Yeah, the least common? That's the word. Yeah. The Myers

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Briggs Type Indicator for those there'll be some of the audience that's familiar. It's a kind of a personality type brief based on extraversion introversion, if you're more practical, are more likely to see the big picture if you tend to be more analytical or people based and whether you're just thinking the last one about the decisions were the more kind of flexible or a bit more structured around things.

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Even Yeah, very interesting. Very interesting. What

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That's true, too. Like, yeah, I work with a lot of people and some have very, very, very self aware. Others are just starting to, on their journey and at all different ages as well. And insight into. And it's an evolving process. I find it an evolving process. I don't just go yet one day, I'm self aware. It's kind of just like, oh, man, what's, what's going on here? Like, I'm going through some stuff at the moment. That's new and unusual for me. And it's sort of like, ah, that's interesting. Why's why? Why is that happening? And why am I feeling about things? A particular way? Because it's not normally how I feel about it. So I'm just sitting with that I'm not doing anything. I'm just sitting with it and going, Oh, that's interesting. Just gonna see see what plays. Sitting? Yeah, yeah,

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sometimes those situations are what actually makes you more self aware. Like it just, you know, I feel like life and I always had, it's like, obviously bad things happen. But sometimes life, life would not be as you wouldn't learn anything, if bad things didn't happen, you know. And I feel like those those situations are things that I've gone through, you know, relationships and stuff like that, have made me understand relationships better, because of all the the stuff that I shouldn't do, you know, so now, you know, you don't it's true. When I say, you know, with age, your, you become wiser, because you just experienced all this stuff, because I have

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more lessons in life. Lessons still don't just get presented with different lessons. And sometimes even more birthdays you have, it's still like, yeah, why am I still? Why is that happening to me? Why haven't quite

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exactly what was, you know, habits, have it take a long time to actually 60 days, they need to save 21 But I was like, That can't be true. I think it's like 60 days to 90 days that you actually can start begin a new habit or break one. But yeah, I find that so funny and so interesting. And that. I mean, that's, that's my main focus on my YouTube is that on my last channel, is that I like to give people advice, because I want them to take those shortcuts that I didn't have before. Don't make the same mistakes as me, you know. So, it's one of those things like, you know, obviously, I'll probably learn more and, you know, as I get older, but um, you know, being in my 30s, I thought, well, you know, I'm just going to let people know what I've learned. So then they don't have to do the hard work yet.

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Do you know what I find the same row, like when we talk? It's kind of like, yeah, I get that the same same. What I'm learning is that it is about giving some shortcuts and some tools and some resources. Sometimes they need to go through what they need to go through to learn their own lessons. And for me, and it's the same that you're doing, you're giving some tools and resources and sharing your pearls of wisdom that they can apply to situations when they're going through stuff so they can navigate it is I find really helpful because It's a balance, you know, when we see when we can see some things for others, and our lessons learned might help them. And that's what this podcast is about. But they also need to experience the lessons themselves. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. What else do you talk about on your YouTube channel, tell us about that. It kind of started

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off, I've gone through so many phases. So it started off as like a book channel. And then I ended up creating a separate one for that. And then I kind of tried to do makeup because I do like to do my makeup. But then I realised it's not something that I'm super passionate about. And then I just decided one day, oh, I am going to start doing videos about, you know, advice on relationships or advice on even just like life stuff, or like health or fitness. I think I even did like an Amazon one where I was like, here's some cool hacks that you guys can do, or cookies, some some Amazon products, that life changing kind of thing. So those kind of, it's very broad, which I liked, I liked the fact that I'm a little bit more, I have a lot of control over what I what I can show instead of it just being one thing. And so that's what I've been focusing on, I did have a film and book channel, which I still up, I'm not going to delete it or anything, but I've decided to kind of put that on pause because I want to focus mainly on the lifestyle. One, it's my it's more, I'm more passionate about it. Like I do love my films and books, I read a lot of books, but I just feel like the lifestyle stuff is more beneficial for people. And I feel like it's something that I you can tell as soon as I do those kinds of videos where I'm giving advice about like, things that you can do to take control of your life, which is one probably my favourite video that I've done on there, you can see it like my friends would message me and say, I can tell how passionate you are when you're talking about that. And people see that authenticity. And I think that people are going to watch those videos, because they're the ones that they can tell your being your true self, and that you actually passionate about, you can actually tell when someone's losing interest in something. And so, I mean, that's what I'm doing at the moment, there's nothing else on that channel that is worth really highlighting because it's those are the most important and my favourite videos to film. And I do I'm starting to do a few of the fitness like my fitness journey and kind of telling people also, again, shortcuts or you know, things I didn't know that now I do. So it's it's still a journey for me. I'm still kind of growing into that because it's, you know, not a it's not an old channel. I only have like, maybe almost seven, eight months. So it's not very not even

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a year, not even No, no. We've got the details in the show notes. But just quickly tell us what your YouTube channel is.

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So it's my name. So it's at Rusia Roc i o Cortez, CA RT Yes,

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yep. Yep. So we'll have the details in the show notes as well. And this podcast so some of the listeners will be listening on podcast, some of them watch the on YouTube. So we play the podcast on YouTube. And I would encourage people for this episode to jump over to the happiness hive YouTube, because you'll see when Ray was talking about she loves makeup. She's absolutely stunning and your makeup is gorgeous. And it would just be a good one to even watch this one this episode on YouTube. And we often do for the listeners we do just added goodness on YouTube as well. So you might want to jump over there. So lots of lifestyle stuff. What do you do on tick tock? I'm not. I don't know, I just cannot get my head around tick tock might be very late with my birthday. What's

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very, very new to it. Actually one of the girls that I speak with in church, she told me that I should switch my YouTube film book channel. Yeah, over to titop Because I could do shorter videos with books. And I was like, You know what, that makes more sense, which is why I put a pause on my YouTube channel for that. And instead I'm doing it on tick tock and it literally takes like five minutes to film an upload which is amazing because it usually takes two hours to do it on YouTube.

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YouTube. Might be a quicker medium for audience I haven't yet I'm you know, a lot of my keys hanging out on Tik Tok. I just haven't like I was hanging out there. But it was just like,

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oh, I still getting the hang of things that I'm like, Oh, maybe I could have done that better. And I see other people's videos

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and but yeah, and that's what I think it is, too. I think it's that opportunity to at all levels and we have you know, people that our tribe and our following that really relate to the each of our messages. So I think however you do it, you will have people that will relate to that. Yeah, I'm just going to get back into row the coaching that we did and not going through the real detail but a lot of that was around helping you to get clarity around where you're currently at with your career and what some of the next steps would be, what would stay some, or some of your takeaways around that that could be advice for other people that are wanting clarity around, where they're at, whether it be in career or just life generally. So where they're at and where they want to get to what would be some of the tips from your perspective,

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what I really loved, and I think that this was probably the best advice that you gave in the whole thing was that you said to ask the right questions, and the right jobs will come up. So it was what do you want in a job? What do you not want in a job? How do you want to feel? How do you not want to feel? And having that and writing those down makes such a difference to me, because even if you think those things, it's different when you have them written down. And then when you start to also, I think there was also another another time earlier on that we spoke about that. You said, Well, what are you interested in? And then I said, you know, I like to, you know, give people advice or help people grow, and they'd be very, and everything was very people, people, people were like, you know, that sounds like a learning and development that sounds like and I'm like, Ah, I didn't think of those those roles. I never thought that it's something that was kind of in my in my road to pick up on. So I think that also not to count anything out. So if if you you know, if you're interested in being more, like I said, more, for me, it's growth, if people don't say I can't, you know, I can't apply for that role, because I am an administrator, but you can still put those skills that you've learned into that role, you just have to wear it well, when you apply. And also actually noticed, following this, when I redid my LinkedIn, I've been approached by a lot of people now that are starting to jump up at me from what I've written down. Yeah, and it's a lot of the roles have a role that I probably wouldn't have even thought to apply to because I thought I wouldn't be capable of or I would think, Oh, not like they probably want someone that's specifically it or something. But there's all these opportunities that are popping up now. And because I've kind of put myself out there, and I've actually said, This is what I want. And if people are not approaching you, it means that you are capable of it, you are qualified for it. And I think that we have learned as well with job searching and growing, you know, in my workplace is that a lot of the time it's not, it's more how you approach the role. It's not what you know about the role. So if you bring your basic skills, as long as you've got those basic skills, you can learn anything, you just have to be willing to learn. And I think that's the biggest thing, the biggest takeaway is being willing to, to show them that you're willing to learn, and that people don't mind because you're gonna have to learn their own their way around all this stuff. So yeah, you got to start from scratch anyway, even if you already know it. So, for me writing those things down, really, really helped me.

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And I find to like I love I'm just so excited. And especially by getting that clarity and updating LinkedIn, and then people actually starting to reach out to you. Because what for me happens is when you start to get clarity about what you want, and it's not just it didn't just happen, you know, though, actually with you it did happen. Yeah. It's kind of a process about well, what is it that I do want? And that's whether it's work or life? What do I want it to be? Like? What's my ideal version of it? What am I things that I really want to have? What are the things that I really that are deal breakers, that if they're not there, that's not going to fulfil me? Or what are the things I don't want to be experiencing? And then how do I want to feel? For me, that's, you know, the others are important, but how do I want to feel because often when we get attached to a certain outcome, and if that doesn't, eventuate, then we kind of go into this spiral of, I've failed a, you know, life's not great, or, you know, I've got this shitty job or bla bla bla, but when we really dive into how we want to feel, the outcome might be a little bit different than what we were anticipating. But if we're still getting those feelings of fulfilment, then does it really matter what that outcome actually is? And I remember when we were coaching, so we were together for a couple of months. And I remember that that clarity came quite early in the piece. And then you were able to sort of build on that and look at what what opportunities and what, what else is there that I can now do to sort of move navigate into that space and, and it's interesting, not surprising that interesting that now people are responding. I just think that that's the, you know, when you get specific, you're actually activating your reticular activating system, which is the like, it's searching there for those things that you want. And they're kind of you know, it doesn't mean that they show up instantly but they're starting to they're starting to that's very cool. Yeah. Love it. Yeah. Love it. Oh my gosh, row, we could talk forever. We might even just pop over onto YouTube with a bit of extra goodness. If people want to follow us. Follow this episode there. So we've got your YouTube people can follow that. Rocio Cortez, and also the details on social media. You can get those from the show notes. I have loved this so very much and we need to continue the conversation so big hugs and happiness for you. Row. Thank you.

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Thank you. It's been amazing. I've really enjoyed this as well as always